This weekend, I had an epiphany, an eye-opener of the widest kind.  But before we get into it, I’ve got some ‘splaining to do.

As you all know, I loved marathon training, found it challenging but not difficult using the plan I’d chosen, Pfitzinger’s 18/55.

I admit that during this period, I fully expected to end up faster in other distances simply by dint of “the marathon training process”.  I’d read enough accounts of easy PRs gained, both during and soon after such training periods, that of course I expected it to happen for me.  How unhappy-making then, that my one race in the midst of the plan (a measly 4-miler) ended up with such disappointing results.

To understand just how disappointing is to look back at my Spring PRs: a 5K in April (23:06) and a 10-miler in May (1:19).  Both of these races are in the same ballpark of McMillan’s calculator.  Yet here was this 4-miler in September at 30:48!  I attributed it to the marathon training process, tired legs and the fact that it was a short race when I’d been training to go long.  I played it down.  But in my critically thinking head, I was a bit dismayed.

Fast forward to this last weekend, my 10K race.  Yes, it was a sizeable PR and I’m genuinely satisfied with my performance, but if I compare it to last Spring’s PRs, it was not good.  In fact, as far as McMillan goes, it’s right on par with my shitty 4-miler!  When I realized this (and that my Marathon time also fits in the same McMillan range as well) I had to recognize it as a trend, not a few unrelated blips.

So I began investigating the Big Picture and it quickly became apparent to me what was going on.

#1 Revelation:
My mileage build for the marathon was no great shakes.
Note: These monthly graphs include all training runs, but exclude races.

Or rather, since I was no stranger to 45-50+ mile weeks, it was stupid for me to expect that doing the same thing would give me some kind of bonus.  Sure, I had a peak month, but the surrounding ones don’t look any different than assorted previous months.  The fact that my marathon training mileage was apportioned differently (spread out across 5 days instead of 6) certainly helped my endurance, but the mileage itself wasn’t a stress factor, and stress (or increases) are how envelopes get pushed.

#2 Revelation:
My average pace got slower…much slower.

See anything notable starting in June?  That’s where marathon training began and with it, recovery and much slower long runs.  Quite an obvious difference, huh?  Back in the Spring, I not only ran all my easy and long runs faster, I was also doing both a speed and a tempo workout each week.  For marathon training, I had weekly speed or tempo, never both.  So no dramatic mileage growth and less fast stuff, too.

How silly, then, to think marathon training should have given me a speed boost, why would it?  I didn’t stress either speed or mileage – just longer long runs.  That said, I gained beautiful endurance which was completely the whole point anyway – I never could have run a marathon back in the Spring.  With this in mind, I consider my marathon training 100% successful, I have no regrets or complaints.

The important and freeing thing though is that I now feel totally OK with where I’m at speedwise, even if it seems I’ve regressed a tad, because I understand why.  It’s not because I’m all washed up, that I started too late or used myself up too soon (yeah, I actually was thinking this crap).  No, it’s an obvious reaction to a lack of stimuli.  Duh!

Does this mean I’m abandoning everything I learned during marathon training?  Well, you can see from the last month on graph #2 that I’m still doing some slower stuff, though honestly, it won’t be doing those 10+min recovery runs unless I really need them.  And expect this month’s avg. pace bar to become a lot shorter starting with next week’s dual quality sessions.

But this doesn’t necessarily mean I’ll approach the next marathon much differently, either.  I’ll try to increase the mileage, but a main priority for me is keeping training fun and I’m not sure how many miles it’ll take before fun turns into drudgery.  And I love that I was able to avoid injury the whole cycle, so keeping the fast stuff to once a week sounds wise, too.

The main thing is realizing that everything requires it’s own proper attention, that no one training cycle is going to cover all race bases and to keep expectations in line with that training.  I’m only beginning to understand how all this works, how I work.  As they say, “we’re all an experiment of one.”  It sure is fun figuring it out.

16 Responses to “Revelations In Running”

  • Jim E:

    Food for thought. I guess those of us who blow past our old PRs after a marathon cycle have simply been running more, and doing more speed work, than ever before. Thanks for that bit of insight, Flo.

  • This is the kind of neurotic, data crunching, training obsessed blog post I can really sink my teeth into. I know that the two speed sessions in one week is part of what ended up dooming me to injury, but I didn’t approach it with the 40-50 mile base that you had. I would love to know if I could have pulled it off with a larger base. I know next time around I am going with a larger base and a single speed workout per week though, not risking it.

    I am curious to see where you end up going with this. Does this mean you are starting to double up on the speed work now and doing shorter races? Fall marathon again next year?

  • Flo:

    Jim, I could be wrong (because I always regret speaking for others), but it makes sense that it would be so. When you push boundaries, they expand, but if you do as I did (basically redistribute miles) it’s less of a stimulus, if any. It was still good, I was able to increase strength and endurance which is what the marathon is about anyway, but I didn’t get any bonus points.

    We’ll see how this alternate season goes. It’d be nice to get some measurable gains during this time, so when I go for the marathon again I’m not trying to win any speed medals, just get stronger and go longer from that new zero point. That said, I surely won’t poopoo any speed increases should they come (peaking higher will help) but I won’t be expecting it as I did this time.

    Lol, Progman, I know, you are like me in numbers freakdom. Yeah, I think for two speed sessions you definitely need a firm base, but on the other hand, according to Nobby, who’s head of the Lydiard foundation, tempos can be considered strength training as they’re much safer than intervals. So doing those together is more like 1.5 speed sessions. :)

    I do think that if you add anything at all different from what you usually do, in your case mo’ miles, it’ll make a real difference. Sure, it won’t be as dramatic as adding more miles + two speed sessions, but if you end up lame, you’re useless, anyway! Your plan is golden.

    So yeah, I’ll be doing the dual workouts till the end of the month, then I plan to do one a week or every 10 days until February when I start training for the Half in May. I’m not going to kill myself though since this will be a down time, so I’ll allow some weeks to be a Steady State run instead of a faster workout, for instance. I don’t want to burn out.

  • man, and I thought I over analyze my training log!
    What a great post. It shows how much passion you have towards your training, and that’s a good thing!

  • Flo:

    Flyers, lol, guilty as charged. I’m under the delusion that I can think myself to being a better runner. You never know…could happen. :D

  • Mir:

    Great, thoughtful post, Flo! It will interesting to see what happens to your shorter distance PRs when and if you pursue more marathons/longer races. I can tell you that my post-college 5K PR hovered around 23:30 for a long time but just this year dropped to 21:07 (after a year and a half of solid marathon training and three marathons–no specific 5K training).

    I’m also really eager to see how your 5K-specific training works out!

  • Flo:

    Hey Mir, very inspiring to see such a huge PR drop, especially after it was “stuck” for so long. As for my 5K-specific attempt, it’s very short, only 3 weeks and race week, so not expecting miracles but more than if I just filled these weeks with normal running. I’ll be happy with 22:anything.

  • Bruce:

    HOLY OVERANALYZING BATGIRL!!!

    Your my hero. Quick how many times did you run each day of the week??

  • Barb (runninbarb):

    Can’t wait to see what happens, Flo, especially your second 5K! I’m looking forward to tweaking my training for next marathon training cycle also, though I’m not sure how, exactly.

    I remember your speedy runs from before you started training for Steamtown, so I think your assessment is right on. As you know, for me, marathon training was the first time I did any real speed work. Since I didn’t race much (just one half) before starting training for my June marathon, I don’t have real numbers, but I did have that 7-minute PR between my 2007 and 2008 SJ RnR half marathon times. Prior to the 2007 race, I’d run the distance many, many times, and ran in the mid-high 40′s per week. But I ran all of those runs at the same pace, basically.

    Enough about me, though ;) I’m sure you’ll get your 22:something! Do you have an ultimate 5K goal time?

  • Flo:

    Heya Barb! Love the contribution! Yeah, you made a huge leap when you started marathon training, I totally remember your first marathon plan and how your workouts progressed, it’s like you got a speed pill (the figurative kind, of course). As for tweaking, are you going to stay with Pfitz? There’s always the 70 plan. It’s the next logical step as long as it doesn’t become un-fun. That Ultimate plan looks interesting, too, albeit not as safe as ole Pfitzinger. I anxiously await your ideas on it so I can copy you. :D

    My ultimate goal 5K is whatever I can squeak out of this body. I’ll keep trying. If I had any balls, though, I’d work my ass off to stay one step ahead of my friend Barb, who’s this really fast chick and the same age as me. But I think I’m destined to remain behind her…

  • Data geek.

    *snicker*

    (It’s okay. I do this sort of thing too.)

  • Jim E:

    Hey Barb, I just realized you’re a fellow left-coaster I was just re-reading your post, and saw that you ran the SJ R&R Half. I ran that race last month. Were you in it this year too?

  • Barb (runninbarb):

    Jim E, yes, I ran it this year, too. I live in Menlo Park, so it’s a local race. You?

    Flo – I’m seriously scared of the 70 plan. Between the additional mileage and my relatively slow pace, I’d be out there for hours and hours and hours! But I my recent (shorter) races indicate that I need to work more on my endurance. So I’ll want to figure out what to tweak or which new plan to use when I start a marathon training cycle.

  • Dave:

    Damn I love statistics! I think I’m going to go play with Excel right now!

  • Jim E:

    Barb – I’m in Oakland, and, yes, I will be running CIM, with some buddies from here.
    Speaking of mileages, I did 70+ miles last week, and boy are my legs tired! Think I’m finding my limits, distance-wise.

  • Flo:

    Lol Dave, have fun in Excel heaven!

    Jim
    , congrats on the 70+ week! That’s wonderful.

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