Fun run today, waited till late afternoon to avoid gusting wind. It was a beautiful breezy sunset of a run, 8.25 miles which included 8x10sec hill sprints. It’s funny because they sprints are supposed to be “5K effort”, but if you do them on a grassy hill, they end up being as fast as sludge. No matter. I’m getting into them, I can tell they’re giving me Super Runner powers.

Speaking of Super Runner powers, I’ve been thinking of mileage and my next move in that area. Funny how the things you think “I can’t imagine wanting to do that” end up being the next logical step. For instance, last Fall I fully expected my mileage to stay around 45-50, 60 wasn’t even a contender.

Then I got Hudson’s book and noticed that midway through his Half plan he called for 7 days/week. Eh, I figured that when the time came, I’d stick with a 6 day week. Then in January, before I’d even begun the plan, I thought it’d be a lark to try it out, run 7 days/week, just so I could see what it was like. It ended up being so natural that I had no reason to return to 6 days.

So now I’m an “around 60mpw” runner. If nothing interferes (like a race or taking a day off when my foot was smarting) then it’s 60, otherwise, if I lose a day it ends up being around 55. My Half plan will peak next month at 68, but besides that, I figured I’d sit at 60 for awhile. But this week I’ve become curious.

If things are going so swimmingly at 60mpw, what would happen if I went to 70? If you read this blog, you might remember me saying I never liked the thought of doubles. I guess the main reason is that running is my big event for the day, my treat. But to get dressed, run, change clothes again, do daily stuff, be stinky if I don’t shower, change clothes again, run again, etc… just does not appeal to me. Still, knowing that the only way to get faster is to continue to add mileage means I was starting to come round to the thought of doubles.

So yesterday I posted a thread on the Marathon Training Forum asking 70+mpw runners a few questions about their schedules and found out the most amazing thing. Most of them don’t run doubles! And we’re talking up to 88mpw of singles. Whether it’s because they have family obligations, job obligations or just don’t like doing doubles, it is apparently not the requirement I thought it was.

Lest you think I just pulled that “requirement” out of my ass, it’s a factoid I’ve read in several books and articles from esteemed mega-coaches, that if you run more than 70mpw, you need to start doing doubles, else you’ll never be adequately recovered. So what a thrill to find this is book learnin’ advice, not necessarily a real-world necessity.

Game On! I’m going to continue as planned for this Half, peaking at 68 (although I reserve the right to run more if I’m feeling craaaazy), then in May start building mileage a bit.

The cool thing is that marathon training doesn’t start till August and I’m not planning on running any summer 20-milers on a whim. So for a couple months I’ll enjoy some longer mid-week mid-longs and then, once training begins, I can keep that going and just add some mileage to the Sunday run. This way there’ll be no dramatic peaks or surprises and I should be in strong shape as I move through the marathon cycle.

So there you have it, my newest diabolical plan to rule the world. Or at least beat the crap out of some 45-49 year old hags ladies.

8 Responses to “A Question of Mileage”

  • I’ve gone up to the 80mpw level with no doubles, and up to 90 with just one double day. Totally doable.

    Now I’m doubling 3-4 days during high mileage (95-100) weeks, and usually never during recovery weeks. I’m glad not to be doing doubles every day, like I was over the summer. Some can handle that; I can’t. But on some days, I look forward to that second run as a way to clear my head of all the garbage that’s accumulated over the course of the day. If it’s a longer run, I also get to catch up on NPR.

    Seriously, don’t knock it ’til you’ve tried it. :)

  • Flo:

    Julie, very true about not knocking it, though just knowing doubles aren’t mandatory makes mileage building more inviting as a whole. I may change my tune once I’m averaging 70mpw.

  • doggie poo:

    Flo, I’m with you. I plan on upping it next time around (though Loren reminded me I was gonna push it to 60 this time. Funny how I forgot that). I dont mind the idea of double since I doubt for triathlons, though different sports. And I agree with Julie, headphone and This American Life and I zone out. My bigger issue is going to 6-7 days a week.

  • Jack Daniels puts the doubles threshold at 50mpw, so we’ve been sinning for a while now. I’m in the mid 60′s as well, 7 days, all singles. The main reason I don’t do doubles is that I’d like to stay married :)
    That’s encouraging news from the forum. More is not always better, of course, but it’s nice to know that 80+ miles of singles is not a crazy proposition.

  • SD Chargers:

    You’re awesome, Flo! Keep it up. You knock out a 60 mile week, and are immediately looking at 70 and beyond. You’ll be a (even more) Super Runner in no time. Are you going to be able to run in a cape? I hear you about doubles sounding like a lot of work. I find I’m already doing laundry twice as much as I used to.. if you start doing doubles there’ll be a water shortage in Philly!

  • Flo,
    I think Pete Pfitzinger said in his marathon book that you shouldn’t have to CONSIDER doing doubles until you hit 70mpw – not that that are required or necessary even when you get that high.

    He was just questioning the runners he knew that started doubles around 50mpw and said that under 70 its just not worth the time.

  • Flo:

    Doggie, adding a day isn’t too bad, you just do an extra 5er for a couple weeks and there you have it, all integrated.

    SD, too funny with the laundry. I know, that’s another thing to consider. :-)

    Jim
    , I can’t even imagine doing them at 50, lol. Also nodding about the marriage comment, I can’t imagine how Nick will take that if/when I start doubles, he’s already a little leery of my running freakiness as it is, that might have him downright concerned.

    Andrea
    , yeah, the only coach that seems to recommend them before 70mpw is Daniels. Pfitz says you should doubles after 75mpw if you’re marathon training or if your recovery days exceed 8 miles (that’ll apply to me very soon). Hudson says 70+ and I’ve read it from a couple other sources that 70 was the magic number.

  • What do you mean “if” your feeling crazy???

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