Yesterday was my first 20 and a very nice run at that, though completely uneventful. The route is so familiar (my usual museum loop with a little tacked on and then going back the opposite way), that it was very low stress.
I ended up trying 3 different gels from 3 companies in my quest to find a favorite taste, so didn’t take the flask, though I did finally take some smart advice to snip into the tabs of the gels before I left so they’d tear off easier – much easier!
I think I’ve finally settled on Carboom Apple and GU Vanilla, though I had some wicked farting when I got home and since this happened on one other gel-eating occasion, I’d like to whittle the offending one down to Carboom, Hammer or Gu before I order a whole box of anything.
Btw, remember I thought I was going to be all about the Hammer gels? Couple things happened to change my mind:
1. The fact that without electrolytes, I’ll be tied to taking some kind of supplement or drink, which I don’t want to do, preferring to have it in the gel and 2. Their customer service did something really annoying which I didn’t report at the time but since I report the good, I should also report the bad. Here’s what happened:
If you recall, I ordered a variety pack of Hammer gels a few weeks ago and it was a nice package, they were very generous about sending samples of all their other products, so I was in Hammer love. It wasn’t till a day later when I sorted out the gels that I realized there was no Plain flavor, one I was particularly wanting to try since I’d heard it was supposedly a more subtle flavor. I thought I made a mistake about it because it was written on the invoice and packing slip that it had been included, but it simply wasn’t there, so I wasn’t going crazy, it really was missing.
So I email Hammer saying I was missing a gel. Several days go by and no reply, so I call. I talk to a guy who admits the Plains were out of stock when they sent the package. He said he’d send me one. Great (though I was left wondering why they didn’t make mention of it or send me two of another flavor).
A day later, I finally get a reply to my email from a woman there who apparently never talked to the guy I spoke to, because she said, “We’re sorry, and don’t worry, we’ll make a note that we owe you a gel and we’ll include it with your next order.” Huh? I immediately wrote back that “Why in the world should I have to re-order to receive it? I already paid for it!” Then I mentioned my previous conversation with the guy. She sends back a very apologetic email and a few days later, I receive my Plain gel.
Now, at the same time I made the Hammer order, I’d also ordered some different gels from Zombie Runner. Oddly enough, one of the gels in that order got messed up in shipping, but unlike Hammer, Zombie Runner gave absolutely exquisite customer service, instead of giving me the runaround, the day after I contacted them, I get an email saying they’ve sent the whole variety pack again, when all I requested was the one replacement gel. Talk about over and above!
So all this boils down to me being a bit pissed at Hammer and from here on in, my gel ordering will be from Zombie Runner. Great company, great customer service.
Back to running. Another nice thing about yesterday’s run was, even though I’d downloaded a bunch of new songs, I started the run with my headphones tucked away and never pulled them out. A few months ago I wondered how I was going to run a marathon without music, but that worry is totally out the window now.
After the run, I did something new and different, I used a recovery drink – the sample of Hammer’s Recoverite. I’ve never taken anything specifically for recovery, usually just stuff some protein thing in my mouth, but the drink wasn’t bad, like a light creamsicle flavor. And I felt fine and dandy afterwards, legwise, so I might just get a tub of it, customer service be damned. On the other hand, Slimfast or chocolate milk sound even better, so maybe I’ll do that. Or maybe I’ll do what I’ve been doing, stuffing some protein thing in my mouth. All this food technology can really cloud a person’s perception of what is truly necessary.
Nutritional meanderings aside, let’s get to today’s run. First I went with Nick to the Museum steps to see him off on a big 6-day bike trip, 300 miles into the mountains ending in a beer festival in Cooperstown, NY. The ride is being led by our friends Jeff and Lara, the same Lara you’ve read about as my sometimes racing pal.
After some picture taking, good-luck hugs, and a “Go Team Yeast!” as the group rode off on their beer-guzzling adventure, I did my 7 recovery with 8x100m strides. I wasn’t sure how my legs would feel about the strides, having done the 20 the day before, but it went just fine.
It’s interesting to note that with all the heavy, yet pace-controlled runs in Pfitzinger’s plan coupled with the fact that it’s summer training (so a supposed pace deficit due to heat), I’m unable to really gauge how my speed is improving, though I assume it is. I haven’t been adjusting my paces for the heat, which doesn’t mean I’m faster on the whole, just that I’m pig-headed. What I am able to tell is that I’ve gained strength, I simply feel stronger and ready for the miles. I don’t fret about “oooh, I’m doing a 20″, it’s just a logical progression in the scheme of things. Now if only I could be so cavalier about the speed question…






Wow, the first 20! wooo hooooo! I remember the first 20 I did, I felt like crap for about 2 hours. I think I need to start learning about proper nutrition from people like you that do the research. I am still running double digits with only a small gatoradade and a cliff bar! Dumb, huh?
Hey Tobey, not dumb at all, there’s that whole camp of folks that say don’t use anything so you’ll be supercharged on race day. I’m not one for surprises though, thus the deep experimentation mode. Anyway, your gatorade and clif bar are equal to 2 gels, so it’s not like you’re running on empty (literally).
But I still have that fade around mile ten, then again around 20. Maybe it is just because I am old!
LOL, better not be or I’m screwed! Try something different then, just for fun. Buy a couple gels, one with caffeine and take them about 15-20 minutes before you usually fade (taking the caffeinated gel for the 20mile fade), see if it makes a difference. If it doesn’t, your only loss is $2.50 and eating something you might think tasted like ass. Just make sure you have adequate water for them. Nothing like hands-on experimentation.
Just curious, I assume there is only one way to know what ass tastes like! LOL
Hah, that was a figurative ass, gels are much much sweeter.
Why don’t you just call me, this is too time consuming.
HAHAHAHAHA!!! And that marks the end of this particular conversation. Still laughing.
That was fun LOL
I am here to amuse. Give my best to Ebb!
Ciao
Later, crazy man.
Coming from you, I consider that a compliment.
Peace, out.
Hi Flo,
Interesting about not knowing how fast you are now. I’m in a similar quandary, having done hardly any racing during this training cycle. What clues I do have suggest I’ve got quite a bit faster, but I’m nervous as hell. The S.F. Marathon is next Sunday, its my first, and there are hills. So, my pacing plan is pretty conservative. That B.Q. can wait.
On another note, I expected to feel like Superman during the taper, but it’s just bleh. Do I have running withdrawal symptoms, or perhaps it’s just stage fright? I just want to get started!
Tobey – Isn’t fading on long runs kinda normal?
Jim E
Next Sunday! Wow, didn’t realize it was here already, Good Luck!!! Have a great, fantastic time and I’m sure I don’t need to remind you to report back here – I’ll want to hear the dirt, for sure.
No gauge with the race next week…that’s a tough one. Can you use your last tempo run to help determine anything? I’m sure it’s hard to come up with a number without a recent race or time trial, but since your course is going to be so crazy hilly anyway, your approach sounds spot on. What are you shooting for?
Lol, I’ve read so many posts on forums about people feeling like shit during taper. Just think, you’re renewing yourself with every taper day. Superman will arrive next Sunday.
Congrats on the first 20 miler. Big event to me, even if it was uneventful. Funny you mentioned energy gels, today I tryed a new brand. I usually get GU Triberry or orange. But some where I picked up an Apple cinnamon Hammer Gel. I liked the taste, think Mcdonalds apple pie filling. Didnt bother my stomach and I seemed to have an energy boost at end of run. Took it at mile 11 of 16. Im thinking of getting some of the hammer gels, even though I got some GU’s to take yet. If the local store doesnt have them I probably order from Zombie runner after reading your post. Thanks for timely blogging.
Well, thanks, Bruce. That is great timing
and I totally agree about the Apple Hammer gel, that’s what sold me on them in the first place. Apple Carboom is also good. What I love about apple gels is that pie filling is so gel-like anyway, you don’t have to lie that much to yourself to imagine it’s actually food.
I’m still waiting for a Charlie and the Chocolate Factory version…mmmm, Beef Brisket w/Mashed Potatoes gel.
Pizza Gel……….
Flo,
My best gauge race was a 12K over similar terrain, which took me 1:00:20. That would suggest a 3:50 Marathon. But I’ve changed my gait since then (I was a bad heel striker), and built up my endurance. My running buddies have remarked on how improved I am, and my tempo pace is faster than my old 10K race pace. All reasons to be optimistic, and yet, and yet….
I’ve read the horror stories about people who tried to hit their predicted time in their first marathon and failed badly. So 3:50 now looks like a conservative number, and that’s what I’ll shoot for. The first half is slower than the second half, and I’ll aim to negative split by one to two minutes. If Superman does make an appearance, I’ll turn on the jets at some point after mile 16, where it’s all downhill or flat to the finish.
Congratulations on all the body fixes, sounds like you’re a much stronger runner than you were before! Your plan makes a lot of sense considering the dowhill second half. We’ll be rooting for you!!
Just found your blog through your post on RW. I’m thinking I’m already hooked. And…………….I made a purchase on giftedrunner.com. I too took up running about 2 years ago. I will soon be 34 and have ran a full and 2 halfs. Getting ready for another full in Memphis in December. First one (Flying Pig) wasn’t terrible but wasn’t that great. Time was disappointing but I’m really thinking that I didn’t fuel properly. I’m really working on that now, so I appreciate all of your personal faves and not-so-faves! Anywhoo, glad I found your blog and as I said, another blog I’m hooked on.
Heidi!!! I Looooove you!!!!
Thanks for everything, the great comments, the purchases! Oh my, I’m swooning.
You’re ahead of me having completed a marathon already, congratulations! Even though it didn’t go your way, you’re that much richer for knowing where to place your change of attack. Geez, marathons have so many components you have to think about, it’s easy to miss something the first go-round. That’s why I’m such a freak and I’m sure people must roll their eyes when, once again, I put in silly minutia about stuff like gels and pockets, etc. But I figure it’s stuff that has to be addressed some time and besides, overthinking is fun!
Anyway, thanks again, glad to see you here and I hope you join in the comments, it usually turns into it’s own conversation as you can see from the silliness above.
Forgot to mention that tone of your posts cracks me right up! If I didn’t know it was from “Flo” I would have thought it was written by me. Keep up the good work!
Well, thanks for that too, Heidi! I’m trapped in this room now, though…my head’s too big to pass through the doorway.
Flo,
Enlarged head? So you’re all set for the first 10 miles! Not sure where this quote came from, but: “Run the first 10 with your head, the next 10 with your legs, and the rest with your heart.”
I noticed a strange taper effect this A.M. I do these morning sessions in near darkness, and my watch/HRM has no backlight, so I don’t see my splits until later. I thought I was going at Easy Pace, but I was actually going at Marathon Pace. Yeeow!
Whoa! Superman is already out of the shadows. How absolutely cool!! You are ready! I guess the term “taper magic” is for real, after all. Wow.
Like the quote, too.